I've listened to this mix about 3 times through so far and I think it might be the best of the "Thank you Jay Dee" mixes so far, and make no mistake, every damn one of them has been amazing.
But this latest act stretches out Dilla's music in ways I've never heard attempted before. Vocals take a back seat as hints of audio stems bleed and morph from one track into another in ways that catch one constantly off-guard and open up familiar sounds in completely new ways. In many ways this is a dub mix, as funky, sophisticated and unpredictable on par with anything King Tubby or Lee Perry's put their name on. And dusty as hell.
From his Sex Machine mixes onward, J.Rocc always showed he was the greatest with mixing and tweaking instrumentals to new effect, but this is something else.
I love Dilla's music -- and I appreciate J.Rocc for putting together these mixes -- but the worshipping of Jay Dee is getting old. Not that these tribute mixes are some form of worship -- probably just J.Rocc's homage to a good friend, and fellow musician -- but hip-hop culture is really going to far with the death of Dilla. A great musician (and I'm sure a great friend, too) but there's only one God -- and his name is not James Yancey.
Hip-hop died when God became exempt from the equation. Check the facts: what does most 90's rap have that contemporary rap does not? Religious undertones -- some basis in reality. If nobody thinks this absence has anything to do with today's rap, they're dead wrong. Furthermore, they've missed the boat on black culture in America, too.
-Organized Konfusion -Tribe Called Quest -Brand Nubian -Gang Starr -Wu-Tang Clan (many members) -Pete Rock and C.L. Smooth
Sorry to use your site for political ends, J.Rocc.
I don't think anybody is confusing dilla with "God." Maybe, a hip hop God, but I doubt anybody is saying God, in the traditional understanding of the word. I don't necessarily agree with your hip hop and God theory, but you are entitled to your opinion. That being said, Dilla's music is filled with love. There are countless dilla tracks where the word love is in the hook or title. Aren't those similar themes?
Religious undertones = some basis in reality? Whatever, man.
This latest J-Rocc mix demonstrates not only how far-ranging Dilla's music was, but how far a DJ of J.Rocc's skills and imagination can bend, blend and re-shape it in new ways. It says nothing about religion or the absence of god or anything remotely connected with it.
It's good to hear you appreciate Dilla's music , but trying to use this forum to serve your own religious agenda is inappropriate and out of context.
Not trying to evangelize, just laying out the facts, Mike: 90's hip-hop is filled with religious undertones; most prominent hip-hop acts of the 90's were religious. Take it or leave it. Given that, why isn't it logical to assume that today's hip-hop, underground AND mainstream, doesn't measure up to that music of the past because the acts are so spiritually dead? You've got your Madlibs -- who is a great talent, either way -- but his music is so devoid of anything meaningful that it's hard to listen to musc of it a consistent basis (love th YNQ and Blue Note stuff, though)
But in terms of Jay Dee, I just think people (not necessarily here) need to relax. He was just a man, after all.
I'm really not sure what your point is, that music is somehow less worthy because it lacks a direct reference to religion? Madlib, like J Dilla, is a true musician and creator, and that's what he should be judged on. Who are you to say either is spiritually dead? Whether their beliefs echo yours or not makes no difference whatsoever.
If you honestly feel music has to be validated by some direct reference to god/religion/whatever that you should listen to gospel, contemporary christian, or the like. Music on its own terms doesn't seem to work for you.
I'm not saying, Mike, that religion validates music; but when you look at the stuff from the 90's, it's hard to overlook that religion -- notice I'm not specifying ONE religion, since there was such variety -- as well as other cultural things, is all throughout it; and since it is, why is it not logical to assume that it had something, even if it is just something -= which is an understatement -- to do with how great that music was? You can choose to ignore the sociological facts, but you're only looking at the music superficially. There's a BIG difference between a lot of today's music and music of the 90's -- a lot of it, I would argue, is cultural (or a lack of culture). Much of today's music, as art, re-presents very little.
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amazing mix j rocc even better than act 3 which was amazing.
yoo thanks j. rocc.. you the man, the tyjd mixes are so fresshhh
wow act 4 huh? Can you post Act three? The link I had went down and I can't find it anywhere.
Could this be another benchmark mix for the Funky President?
Dope mix as per usual Funky Pres. Setting the bar high !!
when is act 3 & 4 out on CD?
yeeess, you did it again!!! and i would love to have act 3 & 4 on a "real" cd too!? any chance that they will be released??
this could not have been done better. thank you j. rocc/j dilla.
I've listened to this mix about 3 times through so far and I think it might be the best of the "Thank you Jay Dee" mixes so far, and make no mistake, every damn one of them has been amazing.
But this latest act stretches out Dilla's music in ways I've never heard attempted before. Vocals take a back seat as hints of audio stems bleed and morph from one track into another in ways that catch one constantly off-guard and open up familiar sounds in completely new ways. In many ways this is a dub mix, as funky, sophisticated and unpredictable on par with anything King Tubby or Lee Perry's put their name on. And dusty as hell.
From his Sex Machine mixes onward, J.Rocc always showed he was the greatest with mixing and tweaking instrumentals to new effect, but this is something else.
Funky President, thank you.
J Rocc, THANK YOU!
I love Dilla's music -- and I appreciate J.Rocc for putting together these mixes -- but the worshipping of Jay Dee is getting old. Not that these tribute mixes are some form of worship -- probably just J.Rocc's homage to a good friend, and fellow musician -- but hip-hop culture is really going to far with the death of Dilla. A great musician (and I'm sure a great friend, too) but there's only one God -- and his name is not James Yancey.
Hip-hop died when God became exempt from the equation. Check the facts: what does most 90's rap have that contemporary rap does not? Religious undertones -- some basis in reality. If nobody thinks this absence has anything to do with today's rap, they're dead wrong. Furthermore, they've missed the boat on black culture in America, too.
-Organized Konfusion
-Tribe Called Quest
-Brand Nubian
-Gang Starr
-Wu-Tang Clan (many members)
-Pete Rock and C.L. Smooth
Sorry to use your site for political ends, J.Rocc.
I don't think anybody is confusing dilla with "God." Maybe, a hip hop God, but I doubt anybody is saying God, in the traditional understanding of the word. I don't necessarily agree with your hip hop and God theory, but you are entitled to your opinion. That being said, Dilla's music is filled with love. There are countless dilla tracks where the word love is in the hook or title. Aren't those similar themes?
Just wanted to add that to your commentary.
Religious undertones = some basis in reality? Whatever, man.
This latest J-Rocc mix demonstrates not only how far-ranging Dilla's music was, but how far a DJ of J.Rocc's skills and imagination can bend, blend and re-shape it in new ways. It says nothing about religion or the absence of god or anything remotely connected with it.
It's good to hear you appreciate Dilla's music , but trying to use this forum to serve your own religious agenda is inappropriate and out of context.
Not trying to evangelize, just laying out the facts, Mike: 90's hip-hop is filled with religious undertones; most prominent hip-hop acts of the 90's were religious. Take it or leave it. Given that, why isn't it logical to assume that today's hip-hop, underground AND mainstream, doesn't measure up to that music of the past because the acts are so spiritually dead? You've got your Madlibs -- who is a great talent, either way -- but his music is so devoid of anything meaningful that it's hard to listen to musc of it a consistent basis (love th YNQ and Blue Note stuff, though)
But in terms of Jay Dee, I just think people (not necessarily here) need to relax. He was just a man, after all.
Again, though, wrong forum for this discussion.
Take it or leave it? I think I'll leave it.
I'm really not sure what your point is, that music is somehow less worthy because it lacks a direct reference to religion? Madlib, like J Dilla, is a true musician and creator, and that's what he should be judged on. Who are you to say either is spiritually dead? Whether their beliefs echo yours or not makes no difference whatsoever.
If you honestly feel music has to be validated by some direct reference to god/religion/whatever that you should listen to gospel, contemporary christian, or the like. Music on its own terms doesn't seem to work for you.
I'm not saying, Mike, that religion validates music; but when you look at the stuff from the 90's, it's hard to overlook that religion -- notice I'm not specifying ONE religion, since there was such variety -- as well as other cultural things, is all throughout it; and since it is, why is it not logical to assume that it had something, even if it is just something -= which is an understatement -- to do with how great that music was? You can choose to ignore the sociological facts, but you're only looking at the music superficially. There's a BIG difference between a lot of today's music and music of the 90's -- a lot of it, I would argue, is cultural (or a lack of culture). Much of today's music, as art, re-presents very little.
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